
March rabbit
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Posted - 2013.04.16 10:18:00 -
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Welcome to Eve!
And yes, everyone makes mistakes. I'm here 3rd year and still doing like stupid n00b. 
I think you only need few fixes for your endeavors.
Rocketfeller wrote: I started out well enough, running all the tutorial missions and getting the free ships. Then I stupidly lost my destroyer in a mission, sold my other ships to replace it, and then lost that one as well.
yes. you need to practice. + (and this is REAL PLUS) you need to join corp. Just one of 100001 carebear mission runners corp. Nothing special. But usually these corps gives good advices to new players about missions, mining and other non PvP_related activities. Maybe they will give you some ISK and material bonus. I remember my first corp where guys shown me lvl4's, gave some knowledge about PvE (don't mix guns, don't mix tanks, etc....) and gave access to corporation hangar for cheap loot. I used it to fit my ships for some time. This will give you good start.
Rocketfeller wrote:Since I had to start over, I thought I'd give mining a try, as even though it is boring, it seemed safer. That went slowly, but I kept at it and managed to make a little ISK, and eventually worked my way into a retriever, which cost me everything I had. I was much more productive, but within a few days I was blown up by a ganker (in high sec), and lost the ship and my pod. All I had left was a few days worth of ore I had mined before losing the ship. I know, I know, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. But moving into a mining barge as quickly as possible seemed like an intelligent decision for a miner, except in hind sight.
well. nothing wrong here. Except that you should pay more attention to environment. Anyway: you started mining from zero (after losing mission ships) so you could repeat start and be more careful. No need to switch to other activities.
Rocketfeller wrote:I decided to try a more peaceful career as a trader. I scraped together all the money I could and started looking for items I could buy cheaper and sell higher. I found that I could pretty easily make a little profit of 5 or 10%, but soon ran out of capital and order slots. The stuff that I could afford to buy was not very expensive, so even a 10% return wasn't giving me as much as I had been making mining. I decided that was just a temporary problem, and that once I accumulated more capital I would be able to make bigger trades with my limited slots for more profit. So I kept working at it, and also started moving items between stations to take advantage of price differences. I discovered Eve Central, which let me find the best deals and the best markets. I thought I had figured out how to play, and was making a more decent amount of money. Within a month I had a wallet with over 400 million in it. And then I found a trade that beat all the trades before by turning my 400 million into 500 million - 25% in one trip. If you know how this part of the story is going to end, then congratulations to you, because I did not. It turns out the 500 million buy order was a fake. When I tried to sell, the order was immediately deleted. Only then did I find out there were no other buy orders for even 10 million. After doing a little research, I found out this is a common scam made possible by the fact that the market allows orders to remain visible even after the money put up to fill them is gone. I fully accept that the loss is on me, because I stupidly overpaid for the item. But it was an expensive way to learn that the EVE markets contain fake orders. I knew I had to watch out for other players, whether in ships or on the other side of trades and contracts. I just didn't know that the market mechanism couldn't be trusted, either.
And here you repeated mistake again: you didn't learn environment before actions.
But it's ok. As i stated before: you started trading from zero so you can repeat it again. But here is one (however IMPORTANT) note: don't hesitate to work with people!!! In your example: you see "too good to be true" order and .... What now? It's simple! You ask in local!  Result: people will say you why you should evade this order. Can't speak about the whole Eve online but in Dodixie you always get helpful advice should you ask politely.
Rocketfeller wrote:So I'm back to square one. Again. Because of repeatedly making expensive mistakes. Don't get me wrong - I am not crying about the losses. Well, I guess in a way I am, but I don't blame anyone for where I am except me, and I accept that newbies will make expensive mistakes. The question is whether this is an unusual level of stupidity, and whether I should try once more or am I likely to keep repeating my failures?
well i guess you are like me. I still can lose billions by mistake because i can't be bothered to do proper investigation. You can live with it just add some reasonable amount of lazyness. I mean: don't jump straight to river, give yourself some time to watch before action. Yes, you will lose some fast profits (and i lose many opportunities because of this) but you will evade many traps because either someone will get into this trap or someone will shed a light there.
And again: welcome to Eve. You made mistakes and you still here. So i guess you will win at the end. |